Posted by: iam0nly1 | July 6, 2008

PUMA Call to DNC Delegates

 

OBAMA SIGNALS ENDLESS WAR IN IRAQ, SELLOUTS ON FISA, NAFTA, AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM
 
WANTED: 175 HONEST DEMOCRATIC DELEGATES TO LEAVE FRAUDULENT OBAMA IN DENVER!

 

On July 3, Barack Obama revealed once and for all that has run a fraudulent campaign in his attempt to secure the Democratic nomination for President. The foundation of Obama’s campaign had been his claim that he was the anti-war alternative in his opposition to Bush’s war in Iraq.  Now, in a North Dakota campaign event, Obama has declared that he will consult with the generals and “refine his position” on the Iraq war. The Washington Post headlined: “Obama May Consider Slowing Iraq Withdrawal.” But the real message is clear: Obama is moving rapidly away from his earlier 11-month or 16-month timetables for withdrawal and towards full support for endless war, conflict, violence, and bankruptcy in Iraq. Samantha Power had confessed Obama’s doubletalk on Iraq months ago. The handwriting is now on the wall: Obama will soon go to Iraq, meet with General Petraeus, and then announce his Baghdad road conversion to a policy of open-ended military occupation, oblivious to the immense human costs. Soon there will be no difference at all between Obama and McCain on the Iraq war, and the Democratic Party will have missed yet another historic opportunity to help the American people end Bush’s and Cheney’s failed Neo-Conservative policies. McCain is exploiting Obama’s radical shifts in position as examples that Obama has no principles, but only opportunism and expediency, and that his much-touted soaring words mean absolutely nothing. We Democrats now have our last chance to reflect: do we really want to give our nomination to this little-known newcomer who solicited support as a peace advocate, but has now unmasked himself as being a candidate with positions closer to McCain on Iraq?

 

OBAMA BETRAYS DEMOCRATS ON FISA, NAFTA, CAMPAIGN FINANCE, THE DEATH PENALTY, AND MUCH MORE

 

From the instant that he felt that the Democratic nomination was in his hands, Obama has moved relentlessly to the right in a breathtaking, stunning exhibition of cynicism, duplicity, and fraudulent campaigning. Everything he stood for has been thrown overboard, and Obama has broken his verbal contract with his own core voters and donors. Obama promised to stop Bush’s assault on the Constitution and civil liberties, and end illegal wiretapping. Now, Obama will vote for the Republican leaning compromise on the FISA bill, including immunity for the telecoms – something only yesterday he promised the Democrats who supported him he would filibuster. Obama raised money from grassroots Democrats on the premise that their small donations would allow him to be free of the corrupting influence of big money, big business, and special interests, but he has now broken his promise by opting out of public financing for his fall campaign, junking the cause of political reform he claimed to champion.  In Ohio and Pennsylvania, Obama posed as a critic of free trade sellouts like NAFTA, CAFTA, and WTO, specificly telling voters that voting for Hillary Clinton would be voting to support NAFTA. Now Obama has now told Fortune magazine that he is a great friend of free trade and the “market.” Obama now openly supports the death penalty, more of Bush’s faith-based theocratic subsidies, and the “merit pay” assault on teachers. He wants to cut the corporate income tax, and he now opposes attempts to curb hand gun violence. In a most glaring betrayal to his contract with the Democratic base, Obama’s current team of economic advisers suggests that he will soon come out for the partial privatization of Social Security, camouflaged as “entitlement reform.” In short, Obama intends to betray not just his own basic commitments, but the historical foundations of the Democratic Party going back to Franklin D. Roosevelt. The modern Democratic Party was built on the New Deal Democrats, a party of shared responsibility, and a contract to be the voice and champion of working class Americans. Obama’s “new coalition” dismantles the REAL Democratic party and replaces it with an elite party of Neo-Liberals, stealing the mantle of FDR.

 

SENATOR CLINTON MUST BE OUR NOMINEE
DEMOCRATS DID NOT VOTE FOR THE OBAMA WHO HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AFTER JUNE 3RD

 

If Obama imitates McCain on so many issues, the November election will come down to a choice between two individuals, and a fraudulent Obama will not fare well against war hero McCain, who is seen by voters as a straight shooter. McCain will point out that voters cannot trust the disingenuous Obama, and on that, McCain will be correct. Fortunately, Obama has tipped his hand by dropping his mask too soon: there is no Democratic nominee until the Roll Call of the States on August 27, 2008 in Denver. We are not calling for some futile and self-defeating gesture – we are pointing to the path that leads to victory. With Senator Clinton, we have a superior, battle-tested, and winning candidate who is waiting in the wings, ready, and willing to take over. Clinton would be a reliable leader on the issues that have built the Democratic Party.  She has stood firm on her positions — past and present — even when it is not politically expedient. The lesson is clear: the Democratic Party cannot win back the White House without the support of the New Deal Democratic base and their ideals.  The Democratic Convention in Denver must put forth a candidate that represents the values of the Party of FDR and that will win the hearts, minds, and votes of Democrats in November. The Barack Obama running after June 3rd is not that candidate. We must have an open convention in Denver — not a thoughtless coronation — so that we can seriously deliberate the far-reaching choices the party must make in this time of war and economic depression.

 

175 PATRIOTS CAN SAVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BY NOMINATING THE TRUER DEMOCRAT

 

The fate of the United States — and the future of the Democratic Party – now rests with a minimum of 175 Democratic delegates who must now exercise their mature political judgment in the service of their country, and turn away from Obama to support Senator Clinton. As of now, Obama has about 2229.5 delegate votes, with 1766.5 pledged delegates and 463 superdelegates. Clinton has 1896.5 delegate votes, with 1639.5 pledged and 257 super delegates. Shift just 175 delegates from Obama to Clinton, and Obama’s power grab comes to a halt. There must be no nomination of Obama on the first ballot. Once Obama has failed to secure the nomination on the first ballot, the party will be able to reflect on who the nominee ought to be, based on the experiences of June, July, and August. Senator Clinton is pledged to an orderly, sane, and secure pullout. Clinton wants mandatory universal health care and a freeze on foreclosures.  She wants to shift the federal gasoline tax away from motorists, truckers, and farmers and towards the Oil Industry. Obama is on the wrong side of all of these issues. Hillary Clinton is and has always been on the side of traditional Democratic Party values. We want a president from the Democratic Party, not from a small group of elite, libertarian Neo-Liberals. Lexington and Concord were started by a few dozen farmers. Does the Democratic Party still have 175 patriots with the courage to take a stand?

 

PUMAS URGE YOU TO BRING TO AND END WHAT HAS HAS BEEN A MOST FRAUDULENT CAMPAIGN

 

We are PUMAs — Democrats who reject an automatic proxy vote.  Instead, we are fighting for real Democratic Party values and the future of the party we love and still claim as our own. We call on the delegates to the Denver convention to search their consciences, their experiences in past elections, and their own common sense. Our party has had enough of defeat and retreat. We must not allow the DNC to impose on us yet another losing General Election candidate. Obama’s anemic poll numbers already foreshadow defeat in November, and his continuing sellout on the issues is only making matters worse. We urge you to reconsider your vote for Obama, and to instead vote for Senator Clinton — the strongest candidate, the people’s choice in the popular vote, and the candidate who has and will continue to steadfastly represent the core pillars of the Democratic Party. Vote to seat Michigan and Florida at full strength as elected in the January primary. Organize your fellow delegates to block Obama. Vote for Clinton, for victory in November, and for an end to the long nightmare of the Iraq war.

Will Bower (in cooperation with other PUMAs)
PUMA / Just Say NO DEAL
PUMA08.com

Responses

Where do we sign the durned thing?

If Hillary doesn’t get the top of the ticket, I think Sarah Palin is the way to go. I think she’ll be the first female President (after serving one term as VP under McCain).

I came across this site: puma4palin.blogspot.com

Hillary is in debt. Here campaign team has been dismantled & the best bits moved to Obama. That goes for Hillary’s Money people too. All with Hillary’s blessing.

If Hillary gained the nomination how do you suppose that she could run & finance a competant campaign?

She botched the primaries with everything going for her. Now everything would be against her. No planing. No organisation. No money.

Sorry people but it is just too late, and the Super Delegates know it.

You may want Clinton but it is Obama or it is McCain. This plan will not give you President (Mrs) Clinton, but a floor fight might just give you President McCain.

Finaly if you respect Hillary then listen to her. She is telling you to unite around Obama.
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1) Hillary’s best and most loyal donors have not moved to Obama. They have met with them in joint appearances but have refused to donate or give up their donor lists.

2) Hillary’s campaign was competent. The nomination was stolen from her, in our opinion. She did not botch the primaries. She won the most votes and the most pledged delegates if they are counted in full and in fair reflection of all primary results.

3) Hillary has over $30 million in her general election fund. She has plenty of money. Further, if Obama is no longer the nominee his funds will most likely be switched to Hillary.

4) Perhaps it is “too late” but that doesn’t mean we won’t continue to fight for fair representation and fair convention.

5) In case you haven’t noticed, many of us are just fine and dandy with a President McCain and are planning on voting for him ourselves should Obama be the official nominee.

6) We respect Hillary, but we are not Obots, nor are we lemmings. Hillary has chosen her path (under political duress) and we have chosen ours. Hillary is not our mother and we don’t have to do what she tells us. To even attempt to sell that proposition is ludicrous.

Thank you for your comment.

iam0nly1

You people are IDIOTS and you just wont let go. Clinton has let go why dont you. We the people decided and now your trying to tell us that we want Clinton. Your not a real Democrat……..

Proud Vet,

Please refrain from the personal attacks. Further, we are not “bitter” or “clingy,” we are determined.

In addition, it seems you are unaware that Hillary won the popular vote and is thus the choice of the people. Obama was selected by the DNC in direct contradiction to the will of the people and the true pledged delegate count.

Lastly, if being a “real Democrat” requires unconditional acquiescence to all Party actions, and an obligation to vote for anyone with a ‘D’ behind their name no matter how corrupt, sexist, unqualified, inexperienced, and unprincipled, then no, we are not real Democrats.

Thank you for your comment.

Hillary Clinton’s win of the popular vote is debatable.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Popular Vote Total (Excluding Michigan):
Obama - 17,535,458 48.1%
Clinton - 17,493,836 48.0%

Popular Vote Total (Exc. Michigan, Inc. Caucus Sts.)
Obama - 17,869,542 48.2%
Clinton - 17,717,698 47.8%

Popular Vote Total (Including Michigan)
*No Votes are assigned to Obama in Michigan, since it signed himself as uncommitted.
Obama - 17,535,458 47.4%
Clinton - 17,822,145 48.1%

Popular Vote Total (Inc. Michigan, Inc. Caucus Sts.)
Obama - 17,869,542 47.4%
Clinton - 18,046,007 47.9%

As I remarked above, the Michigan primary practically renders 80% of the primary votes to Clinton, through technicalities.

A far more accurate way to deduce the Michigan primary’s vote is to use the exit polls for uncommitted. Approximately 73% of uncommitted would have voted for Obama.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/16/potentially-troubling-news-for-clinton-in-michigan-win-2/

Uncommitted was assigned 238,168 votes

In taking these numbers into account, the popular
vote would have been:
Popular Vote totals (Including Exit Polls)
Obama: 17,709,321 49.8%
Clinton: 17,822,145 50.2%

If you wish to be completely inclusive (including Caucus states)
Obama: 18,043,405 49.996%
Clinton: 18,046,007 50.004%

Though Clinton did win the popular vote from my approximation, it is within a margin of error from the exit poll. I can only interpret this as a tie.

Sorry, wrong link for the exit polls. Sometimes I read things too fast :)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21225987/

The question listed is:
If these had been the candidates on the ballot today, for whom would you have voted in the Democratic presidential primary?

From the uncommitted (Kucinich was on Ballot):
Obama: 35%, Edwards: 12%, Richardson: 1%

0.35/0.48 = About 73%, making the previous post valid.

nnate,

I appreciate your analysis. However, rules are rules are rules, as Obama’s supporters so like to intone. Just because Senator Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan does not nullify those results.

We have hard numbers and those numbers say Hillary is the popular vote winner. If you want to be truly inclusive, we should attempt to estimate all the Hillary supporters who were unable to attend the caucuses, or we should use the primary results from states that also held caucuses like Washington, Nebraska and Texas.

Senator Obama did not want to give the people of MI a chance to vote for him because he knew he would lose. He cannot retroactively attempt to gain votes…that would be changing the rules mid-game, and we know how the Obama supporters don’t like that.

PS: I may be wrong, but I thought Hillary won Michigan with 55% of the vote, meaning Uncommitted didn’t get 48%. I’ll check

Well, it’s either gonna be McCain/Palin or …

Barack Obama starring as “Change” the Gardener in remake of movie classic, “Being There”, starring Peter Sellers as “Chance” the Gardener!

*HT to hs commenting on
puma4palin.blogspot.com

The numbers in my analysis is based on realclearpolitics:
(Percents assuming Dodd and Kucinich were not in race)

Hillary Clinton:
328,309 58%

Uncommitted:
238,168 42%

In Michigan

Thanks for getting those last numbers nnate.

My question now is how do the previous percentages of the uncommitted vote add to 48% when the total was only 42%.

Also, while I frown on the exit polling date (Kerry won the exit polls in ‘04), by my estimations, if Obama really did get 73% of the uncommitted vote, that still means he would have lost by double digits and would have only gained roughly 170,000+ votes.

I’m a believer in hard numbers, and more a believer in truly democratic processes that give access to the most people, and thus more accurately represent the will of the voters.

Oh… I get it. 48% was not the uncommitted vote.
This percentage is based on the exit poll, asking who would people vote for if all the candidates were on the ballot.

I just listed the candidates who have declared themselves uncommitted. And from there calculated Obama’s percentage from that group.

Sorry for being unclear.

iamonly, thank you for respecting my analysis. I thought that including every caucus and primary would give Obama a statistically significant victory.

But mathematics reveal many things that are not immediately obvious. Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote, albeit by only 3000 votes, was contrary to my expectations.

A very bored math student,
Signing out

No prob, nnate.

In the future, it’s good to consider that Hillary Clinton would be remise to claim the popular vote victory if she did not have it in the most inclusive circumstances, considering the media’s hatred for her and pretense of parsing her words and carefully investigating all her claims and twisting them if they see fit.

I’m sure her victory would be even larger if we instead counted the primaries in the states that also held primaries, as they are more representative and more people participated.

Thanks again for your comments and math analysis.

Obama, is ture on that change bull.. he’s not going to get out of Iraq.. he is now changeing everything.. 2,3, maybe 4 faces Obama has..

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Are you really out of your mind or intentionally feeding untrue information about Obama to misinformed/gullible people?

The problem is if Obama loses due to our votes, Hillary will never see a nod again from the DNC . This is why she is doing what she is, and I think she was prommised the Secratery of State Job for her cooperation.
Just a thought, Republicans will set womans rights back 50 years when they overturn Roe-v-Wade as McCain has said he will, and share NONE of our values. Think before we vote !!!
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Republicans have been threatening to overturn Roe v. Wade since forever. With Bush in office, they had all three branches of government…and nothing happened. Roe v. Wade is still here.

This is a wedge issue trotted out every four years to drum up votes. Nobody is falling for it anymore.

If Obama wins, Hillary will never see a nod again from the DNC. So either way, she loses. Thus, it’s no longer about her. The question is only whether or not Obama is qualified to be President. The answer to that question makes it easy to vote.

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